Thursday, April 12, 2007

the counter arguement

the rebutle to the x and y thing, you see my friend an occurence of an X in terms of causality necessarily corresponds to an effect Y. This IS what causality is all about if not and if one X can have multiple occuring Y's and one Y can have multiple X's causing it then what is the difference of this scenario from an independently occuring X and an independently occuring Y happening after X? could it be said that this is indeed causality? This is exactly what it means when I say everything happens by chance.

2 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

everything might happen by chance but the human mind connects this thing from this other thing to create the concept of causality. it keeps us sane, causality.

your blog has an interesting question: what if life had no meaning, indeed? meaning is subjective, no one person can tell you that this means that and this means this, because the world is just not ONE thing in the eyes of ONE person. now my point is: whether life has meaning or not is something no one person can answer, because it is too objective to actually be TRUE, for everyone.

so what if life has no meaning? me, i try to find one. and it will have one.

12:02 PM  
Blogger ozy said...

you should've told me you posted something.

"an occurence of an X in terms of causality necessarily corresponds to an effect Y. This IS what causality is all about"

Correct.

"if not and if one X can have multiple occuring Y's and one Y can have multiple X's causing it then what is the difference of this scenario from an independently occuring X and an independently occuring Y happening after X? could it be said that this is indeed causality? This is exactly what it means when I say everything happens by chance."

The whole point is that x=y. Every x=y holding all objects constant. It is the point of causality and all of science to hold variables constant so that we may understand things. With an introduction of a random variable there is "chance" in the sense that there was no prior knowledge of that certain effect. But another effect can only happen because of another cause.

Your basis of comparison between life and chance cannot be accepted because the variables that govern the realms of lives are never constant. Thus there is no way to predict a definite outcome, this is chance, not knowing what comes next. But this does not mean there is no such thing as causality because in the end there is always a definite cause to every action.

ps somethings wrong with your tagboard. switch to cbox.

2:29 AM  

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